{"id":8939,"date":"2021-03-14T06:23:29","date_gmt":"2021-03-14T04:23:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.benjami.cat\/?post_type=podcast-episode&#038;p=8939"},"modified":"2021-12-29T20:30:41","modified_gmt":"2021-12-29T18:30:41","slug":"cremant-caixes-amb-jon-tugores","status":"publish","type":"podcast-episode","link":"https:\/\/blog.benjami.cat\/es\/arxiu\/podcast-episode\/cremant-caixes-amb-jon-tugores\/","title":{"rendered":"Cremant caixes, amb Jon Tugores"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">L&#8217;exposici\u00f3 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.fundacioct.cat\/exposicio\/jon-tugores-atmos-fear\/\" class=\"rank-math-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Atmos-fear<\/a> el fil conductor de la conversa. Les fotografies del Jon permeten veure el m\u00f3n des de dalt d&#8217;un avi\u00f3, cosa que convida a repensar-lo. En realitat, volar tamb\u00e9 \u00e9s una forma de &#8216;pensar des de fora de la caixa&#8217;, per\u00f2 en Jon diu que no basta i presenta una idea molt potent:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>Avui ja no podem fer all\u00f2 del &#8216;think out of the box&#8217;, perqu\u00e8 aquest &#8216;box&#8217; ens l&#8217;hem de cruspir.<\/p><cite>Jon Tugores, minut 58:49<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n<h2>Dues hores m\u00e9s de podcast<\/h2>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Aprofito aquesta entrada per a fer un inc\u00eds: hi ha debats sobre la durada que han de tenir els podcast. Per mi \u00e9s clar, per\u00f2 hi ha dubtes perqu\u00e8 prou gent encara viu la in\u00e8rcia de les graelles del segle passat, quan la comunicaci\u00f3 audiovisual anava per aire. Ara, per cable de fibra \u00f2ptica, podem emetre un nombre infinit de converses simult\u00e0niament.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>(D&#8217;acord, els darrers metres sol haver-hi WiFi o 4-5G, per\u00f2 a peu d&#8217;antena hi ha fibra. A m\u00e9s, la WiFi i els m\u00f2bils permeten tantes emissions diferents com aparells, cosa que no passava amb la FM ni la TDT)<\/em>  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Abans tamb\u00e9 calia tenir molt presents les hores que la gent era devora la r\u00e0dio i davant el televisor. Passava que a les 9 del mat\u00ed &#8211;per exemple&#8211;  la majoria sortia del cotxe i no escoltarien m\u00e9s la r\u00e0dio. Ara tamb\u00e9 passa, per\u00f2 en tornar al cotxe el podcast continua en el punt que el v\u00e0rem deixar en sortir. Si aix\u00f2 hagu\u00e9s passat des del primer moment, la r\u00e0dio no seria com avui la coneixem. Poder dosificar les emissions \u00e9s una revoluci\u00f3 i cal aprofitar-la.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">B\u00e9, en el fons no \u00e9s tan revolucionari:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Els podcasts s\u00f3n audiovisuals en la publicaci\u00f3, per\u00f2 <strong>s\u00f3n llibres en la construcci\u00f3<\/strong>. Els llibres els deixeu perqu\u00e8 no podeu seguir, per\u00f2 voleu acabar-lo. El podcast ha d&#8217;estar pensat per aix\u00f2 mateix: que vulgueu acabar-lo. Per aix\u00f2 prefereixo parlar de cap\u00edtols i no pas de programes, perqu\u00e8 no estem pas programats a cap graella.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Aleshores passen coses com la d&#8217;aquest cap\u00edtol amb el Jon: una idea memorable sorgeix el minut 59. No ho s\u00e9, si podia haver passat abans, en una conversa preparada i cronometrada; mai no l&#8217;havia sentit parlar d&#8217;aquesta idea i no li hauria preguntat pas.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Crec en els ambients i els contexts <strong>aleatoris<\/strong> per a fer sorgir les millors idees.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Perqu\u00e8 s\u00e9 que hi ha molts de podcast i el vostre temps \u00e9s limitat, prefereixo deixar m\u00e9s setmanes despr\u00e9s d&#8217;un cap\u00edtol de m\u00e9s durada; no vull que digueu \u00abun altre cop el Benjam\u00ed?\u00bb quan encara no heu acabat el cap\u00edtol anterior.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Espaiar programes sense interval fix era impensable al m\u00f3n audiovisual que circulava per l&#8217;aire. Si no marc\u00e0vem un dia i hora en les rutines de la gent, qu\u00e8iem en l&#8217;oblit. Al podcast no passa: quan entreu a la vostra <em>apli<\/em> podcastaire all\u00e0 hi ser\u00e9. Aquesta \u00e9s tota la rutina que cal: obrir <em>l&#8217;apli<\/em>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Els qui tenen patrocinador solen ser regulars perqu\u00e8 qui paga vol \u00abimpactes\u00bb repartits en un calendari. En realitat pensa en ell i no en els clients, que sovint no poden assimilar tants cap\u00edtols en un entorn d&#8217;abund\u00e0ncia d&#8217;oferta de podcasts. Quins s\u00f3n els primers podcasts que he descartat a mesura que n&#8217;he descobert m\u00e9s d&#8217;extensos i interessants? Exacte: els diaris i setmanals. \u00c9s una q\u00fcesti\u00f3 de maduraci\u00f3 del g\u00e8nere podcast; <em>\u00abM\u00e0rqueting cl\u00e0ssic disparant-se als peus\u00bb, cap\u00edtol 239.674 bis<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">La meva experi\u00e8ncia diu que la majoria sentiu els programes extensos. \u00c9s interessant veure l&#8217;estad\u00edstica, que diu que els primers dies la majoria nom\u00e9s ha sentit un 10-25% del cap\u00edtol. A poc a poc els minuts augmenten fins que m\u00e9s d&#8217;un 90% arriba fins al final.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Moltes gr\u00e0cies per escoltar-nos.<\/p>\n\n\n<h2>L&#8217;\u00e0udio<\/h2>\n<p>La caixa el reprodueix des de Spotify, per\u00f2 cada cap\u00edtol \u00e9s a les diferents plataformes que trobareu dalt lincades.<\/p>\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-spotify wp-block-embed-spotify wp-embed-aspect-21-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Spotify Embed: Cremant caixes amb en Jon Tugores\" width=\"100%\" height=\"232\" allowtransparency=\"true\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"encrypted-media\" src=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/embed-podcast\/episode\/09OLGlNeFwtX4LisIs7Q9g?si=7LZLvIp8TWOWQ19C_oDacA\"><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Els v\u00eddeos<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Al podcast comentem aquest panell de l&#8217;exposici\u00f3:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Atmos-fear, de Jon Tugores\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/sw2yBW935GI?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Presentaci\u00f3 de l&#8217;exposici\u00f3:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Exposici\u00f3 \u00b7 ATMOS - FEAR Jon Tugores\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/uyMrk3nerXw?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Reportatge a <a href=\"https:\/\/terrassadigital.cat\/jon-tugores-aterra-amb-les-seves-fotografies-aeries-al-centre-cultural\/\" class=\"rank-math-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Terrassa Digital<\/a>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Jon Tugores aterra amb les seves fotografies a\u00e8ries al Centre Cultural\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/14kFxiuqmAM?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:100px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Foto del Jon: Cristian Casanelles<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>El &#8216;Think outside the box&#8217;, pensar des de fora de la caixa, \u00e9s molt del 2020. 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